User talk:Dave33333/My Take On Fanon

nobody remembers poor wonder  -  Wonderweez  ( Talk ·  Contribs ) 01:29, 12 May 2017 (UTC)
 * It's ok lil' Weez, you can be my puppet too, I have two hands :D   C  K   Sysop / BOBmaster ? 01:40, 12 May 2017 (UTC)

On a serious note, I'm sorry for whatever it is that I've done in my two and a half years of Adminship here that's angered you and a few other disgruntled users. I've done the best I can, and that might not be good enough for your liking, but it's all I can do. Being constantly berated for being a dictator, corrupt, a bully, a terrible person, etc, hasn't helped me improve as an admin or as a person in any way, but if you have any specific suggestions for improvement, things I could do or change, or other constructive criticism, I'm all ears.   C  K   Sysop / BOBmaster ? 01:40, 12 May 2017 (UTC)

ok then
"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."

- Hanlon's Razor

Dave, this is an old adage that I try to abide to in life.

I understand that you feel that the admins are corrupt and out to get the normal users of this wiki, but from my experience this simply isn't the case. The shortfalls you see in the administration aren't deliberate acts, but rather the consequences of neglect and poor management.

For most people who become admins here (yes, including you, Dave), this is/will be the first position of authority or leadership they've ever had. Has it gone to the heads of some people?- Of course! It went to my head. It surely went to TS' head, too. But for the majority of admins who have come through this wiki (CK, EDFan, Wonder, etc), the things you see them doing wrong are just how they've always been known to handle things; sometimes snappily and unprofessionally. It's not an intentional slight or power move, it's just immaturity (which ALL OF US possess here!).

I've said this before and I'll say it again - just because someone thinks your ideas are stupid, and that they don't want to see your ideas implemented, doesn't mean that they think that you are stupid or that you don't have a place in this discussion. (Disclaimer: Being excessively annoying, salty, immature, etc. can lead to admins as well as normal users disregarding both you and your opinions. Choose your words wisely, kids!) Nobody should take a disagreement about an idea between anybody as a reflection of their character. People disagree all the time, whether it be on politics or on how long High Penguins should live.

I guess what I'm trying to say is this:


 * The admins' shortfalls are less likely due to them being malevolent than it is due to them being idiots.
 * Admins, just like everyone else, aren't perfect and are still learning how to best approach a problem and solve it constructively. It's best if both sides recognize this and treat each other with respect.
 * Having a disagreement based on ideas is not the same as insulting someone personally.

I hope this helps.

(PS: Paging User:Brant and User:Quackerpingu and I hope you guys read this too. ^^)

-- Bro  Talk to me! 01:47, 12 May 2017 (UTC)
 * thank you for remembering poor wonder -  Wonderweez  ( Talk · Contribs ) 01:55, 12 May 2017 (UTC)

Thoughts
This anti-administrator charade between administrators and users has to stop right now. Our wiki is divided and heavily fractured and every man looks after themselves, ignores others, and refuses to collaborate with others. Whenever their articles are touched, they throw a fuss, get upset and whine. This has got to stop and the administration also has to be more considerate towards the lesser community and not harass and intimidate them. Enforcing the policy is fine, but randomly calling out users, attacking them, insulting them and degrading them is absolutely not okay.

As for "But what is next? While I do not like to say it, Penatubal, if ever promoted, could become a corrupted admin, but I dare not think it. I am disgusted by that very thought", I think I have been too involved in all this anti-administrator charade that doing a suddently 360 U-turn would destroy me, and I do not wish to make that U-turn either because I sympathize with the common users against certain administrators, but I sympathize with them in the way that there is lots of corruption on Fanon and there needs to be less harassment against users, not in the establish a direct democracy and dictatorship of the regular user kind of way which Brant, Dave and others seem to be propagating!

Please stop with the extremism on both sides. The wiki is heavily fractured and division can be seen in real life too in politics, where "you are either a social justice warrior and a triggered feminist, or you are an alt-right skinhead who hates Jews". There's too much division and hate between so many human beings these days.

No Dave, Quacker and Brant, not everything in life is a conspiracy against you. Just like you, I've also thought everything in life was a conspiracy against me, before I found out after many months of going to the hospital for various reasons and still am today due to scoliosis that our lives are sacred gifts endowed to us by the Creator that we should all appreciate and enjoy and live at full blast. Anything we ever whine about these days is absolutely dumb. We need to appreciate our lives as they are and strive to be even better humans than we currently are. Strive to make the world better. Treat other creatures with respect and be as good as we possibly can. Life is fascinating and cannot be explained with just small words, and all of you guys should know that regardless of your situations right now: You most, most likely have it luckier and way better than some of the many men, women, children and animals on this planet.

Please read my post entirely and understand what I am saying. Life is big, long and powerful and we should all be aware of its glory and how lucky we probably are. As I said, when you have something bad happening to you, this goes especially for Brant: it's just life. Life isn't perfect and life has many ups and downs (I've learned that the hard way) and there are many other people, who have no money. No food. No water. No shelter. Nowhere to live. They live in the middle of a conflict zone and are under attack by terrorist whack-jobs from both the far left, the far right and the Islamic extreme. Stop complaining and stop seething at the administrators and pretend they aren't real users. They are users just like the rest of us, and we all deserve our rights.

No extremism. No conflict. No division, no anger. Peace.

-- Penstubal (Talk) (Edits) 13:54, 12 May 2017 (UTC)