User talk:Dave33333/Misreading and Ignorance

If you honestly think I didn't investigate the issue with Ed, you'd be hard pressed to be wrong. I investigated and asked him over and over again. He is not, and I mean not, a Nazi. And mind you, we did discuss HF's comment with you in the room until you had to leave. You even liked the verdict we gave of a warning to him. The staff are sick of your attitude, not you. Treating others like crap is not the solution either. They do not deserve it. Like I have said before Dave, my request is fairly simple: you don't have to stop hating the administration for I cannot force it, but stop the insults to the other users. They don't deserve a smidgen of it. Mind you, these "peace talks" are only in relation to this wiki; staff are not supposed to step in unless things get out of hand, which in your case, I stepped in as staff because it has been. You have been incredibly disrespectful to the administration despite our attempts (albeit, in your words, not enough) to make peace, but you have been denying it as of recent as you claim the "time is up," as well as users who you think deserve the anger the administration should get. Leave them out of this. Dave, if you are honestly sick and tired of this drama, you wouldn't be opposed to any means of ending it. If you actually care about this wiki and "peace," you would make amends on your part to end it. If not, the door is that way, sir. -  Wonderweez  ( Talk · Contribs ) 19:12, 5 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Put the dunce cap on and sit in the corner, Wonder. This isn't about Nazigate, I admitted I was at fault at that. No, this was BEFORE Nazigate. He's insulted and crapped on me before regularly. So regular, he eats a lot of fiber just to crap on my face. Penstubal probably feels the same or is still unhappy with the election, I don't know. But it's EDFan's behavior that kept peace talks from forming. They were not enough. Because we needed EDFan. He was the main reason for these peace talks and he wouldn't even attend. So screw that. Furthermore I am most definitely not leave. And I'm not improving nor degrading the state of your glorious wiki. No, I'm making sure it stays in this state for a while. BTW, image incoming. -- Dave33333   The Epic King   has returned!  19:25, 5 August 2017 (UTC)

I understand Dave's concern and after today's long conversation with Ed my opinion hasn't too drastically changed. Ed said he feels he is not wrong, that I caused all this drama and inspired you to behave like you do, said he believes you are a troll and "the fact I can do nothing and get accused of all these things with zero evidence". I am willing to talk, want peace and today we tried to get it - and we're continuing the attempts. Ed is however firm in his position that he is not wrong, that there are zero problems, that I only want RfA open to 'become admin' and that there are no communication problems between administrators and the regular users. He is pessimistic about solving this anytime soon. So, we will see what happens. I'm being diplomatic and hope to get more chances to talk to EDFan like this. Please don't cause a ruckus and don't behave improperly - we can solve this together through better means. I know you feel harassed and that is an okay natural feeling - I feel it too. Just take a break for a bit and return and it will be all normal. -- Penstubal (Talk) (Edits) 19:37, 5 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Unlike most users, I have said countless times before that I do not think you are a troll. But, with the way you act, and how you convey feelings through equivocalness that only makes things worse than they should be, you give yourself a bad light that shouldn't be there. Insulting me, admins, users, or staff is not a solution either. I agree with Pen; you should take a break from all this, sort of a miniature vacation to clear your mind of all this. Who knows? When you get back, maybe it will be resolved. At least, that is best case scenario. -  Wonderweez  ( Talk · Contribs ) 19:44, 5 August 2017 (UTC)