User blog talk:Wonderweez/Drama

I'm gonna speak for us 4 users who live under a bridge roasting rats for dinner. And I hope us 4 can actually agree on this. We have made mistakes in the past, and we'll admit that. Admins have made mistakes too, and I only see you admitting your mistakes. We tried to correct our mistakes, and finally try to talk to you admins to find an official compromise. You had one month to agree. But one of you chose the silent treatment and refused to talk. You overthought the situation, and took at that we wouldn't actually talk to you. Thinking we would disagree, cut you off, not listen to you, say your lying, and call somebody a Nazi. We had our hand out, wanting to compromise, and you ignored. HatPop even tried to convince you guys I think to do it, but you ignored her. You say actions speak louder than words. We corrected our actions with an action. And we tried. He continued to disagree, and you had a whole month to reconsider and actually take the hand. But you were most definitely too stubborn to think about others and the state of the wiki. As an admin, and during these peace talks, you were to forget what we said about you, and leave your bias behind to find the compromise. And we would do the same. But you still disagreed to talk.

In my last blog post, I said you had blown your chance, you absolutely blew it by being childish. Speaking for Penstubal and Brant and Quacker, why should I give you guys a chance anymore. As I said, we corrected our actions with an action, and your actions spoke overwise, and said you wouldn't help this wiki.

Which leads me to say, even if you try to find a compromise with us now, we will no longer agree. We'll very simply ignore it and go our way, we're not going down to your level, but it's our way of saying "No, you had a chance, you lost it, now go away."

As I close this rant, I return to be the Steve Bannon of this wiki. And very simply say "No chance." Hopefully my chums agree with me on this, you and your admins behavior have lost a chance to end the drama now. -- Dave33333   The Epic King   has returned!  00:12, 5 August 2017 (UTC)

Adding to this: Your actions carried consequences, and for that, you officially suffer them. We'll keep our opinion about you and the admins and continue to speak about it. And you can keep making blog posts saying you want peace. When you had all July just to do that, and acted childish and immature. Therefore, if you have any offer for peace, we'll take a very solid no on that. You failed to take the hand, you failed to be th e better man, you failed to be a role model and you failed to fulfill your duties as an administrator. I will officially ignore you guys and any attempt of peace now, and I ask Penstubal, Brant, and Quackerpengu to do the same on this. And continue to call out what is going on. We wanted to end all this and you ignored it. Now you want to end this, and we'll ignore it, because it only seems fit to treat the administrators as they treated us. Any apologies you plan to give are too late, you had all July. All your attempts at peace are a few days too late as only you begin to ask for peace as the door just closed, I find that ironic. It's all a matter of why we should give you a chance now, and we won't. You and the admins are more at fault than us at this point for the wiki's state. I applaud any user who leaves this wiki because they're doing the smart thing and leaving the drama. This is what you brought forth, a longer period of unrest, you, the admins, and your and the admins actions as a whole prolonged it. You, CK, EDFan, and Ninj should be very proud of yourselves, you've did an excellent job since May. -- Dave33333   The Epic King   has returned!  00:18, 5 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Returning a call for peace with an ignore of it because of a single administrator's actions are, in my opinion, not the best course of action. -  Wonderweez  ( Talk · Contribs ) 00:41, 5 August 2017 (UTC)


 * This is what you have failed to realize. This isn't just your actions, this is the administrations as a whole. You, Ninj, and CK all defended EDFan after he harassing several users, including me, and took zero action or said anything about it except defend him and not realize that maybe he did something against wiki policy. You snooped into my accounts without concent, even if my words were to sound threatening to this wiki, you invaded the privacy of a user in an account you have no permission to touch. But this isn't me stopping contact because of a grudge. This is the fact the administration has failed to take a peace offer. You ignored it and called us out. You and the admins actions speak volumes more than ours to us. You made your bed, you officially get to lie in it now. Cesspool by December is no longer an outrageous concept. These are my final words to any admin: This is the day you realize you actually had a chance and were willing to talk. And now realize you lost the chance and we will no longer talk. And it's a glorious day for me. The car that is the wiki, which it really isn't, but 4 admins, drove your car into a ditch, and it exploded into flames, Wonderweez, you and these admins actions drove the car off the road and now it crashed. Oh, and did I say it was only EDFan who refused to talk? I correct myself, it was all of you. Besides, Wonder, you and the admins ignored our plea of peace because of 1 users actions, do you realize that yet? We will not bend to the admins will and start peace talks. If you guys do something wrong, we will take action, and this is the action I put forth. Remember I'm off the rails. -- Dave33333   The Epic King   has returned!  01:01, 5 August 2017 (UTC)

Ed truly has done nothing these last few days - and that is the problem. He's an administrator and he's supposed to be communicating with other users and to talk to try to solve many wiki issues. He's supposed to be a role model issues. I applaud your post Wonderweez, you're right - both sides need to step up to talk - but what does it say about Ed if one side DOES step up to talk but he refuses? He refuses to talk and that is our problem. I'm going to be there today at 1PM EST regardless of whether Ed decides to agree to talk as well or not - I won't talk at all however if he doesn't agree to participate as well, so you can expect the talks to immediately die before they even start if he doesn't show up and talk as well. 2 users have so far quit because of this drama - we don't want to lose more. That being said, I hope Ed has noticed Nick and Slender quitting and that he can finally step up to talk regardless of our huge, huge ideological, personality and opinion differences. -- Penstubal (Talk) (Edits) 11:00, 5 August 2017 (UTC)


 * That's the thing, he won't do it and it's fact. If he is actually willing, he's only doing it because the door just closed. We need to stand on principal and not attend because his actions and the actions of CK, Wonder, and Ninj all show reasons why we shouldn't be allowing any form of a peace talk. Or at least not yet because it is obvious their maturity is worse than ours and they need a year to grow the heck up. They would have to take action against EDFan if they actually have to do peace talks with me, because he has pretty much filled the minds of the admins with garbage and now they're deluded. We thought Ninj was neutral but it now seems to be fact that Ninj is deluded just as the rest. ED harassrd us for months, and guess what? Even though it was against the policy of the wiki, they took no action, NONE! That is behavior I struggle to understand. Even if he is a admin, he is not better than us in any way, he is, equal to us in every way, with power or no power, he is equal to us, and the admins are equal to us. Behavior deserves punishment, and it needs to be properly served accordingly.


 * Don't call me deluded, thanks. I don't support anyone's actions. -- [[Image:Ninj Xmas Sig.PNG|Special:Contributions/Ninjinian]] ¤   (  User page! ) (  Talk page. ) 00:06, 6 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Oh and stop writing essays. It's not doing any good. -- [[Image:Ninj Xmas Sig.PNG|Special:Contributions/Ninjinian]] ¤   (  User page! ) (  Talk page. ) 00:08, 6 August 2017 (UTC)

Think about this Pen, and think hard: The pleas for peace are coming 4 days after my blog post came out saying the chance was lost. Think about that. It's not a matter of how, it's a matter of why and I choose to stand be principal and teach them a lesson. This is the last time I am going to ask you. Ignore this invitation and do not attend IRC today. Just don't. They're probably gonna show us a log EDFan is willing, and it'll be too late, or that log was a fake, more likely a fake than anything. This is something I strongly advise you to do. -- Dave33333   The Epic King   has returned!  13:46, 5 August 2017 (UTC)