User talk:Dave33333/Aroo

Not taking any sides on this for the sake of neutrality, but you havent been so innocent either. -  Wonderweez  ( Talk · Contribs ) 16:31, 5 July 2017 (UTC)
 * I did that to screw with you guys. I wasn't there after I mentioned the loophole thing, thanks for providing the data. But this isn't about me screwing over admins and fake threatening the wiki. "Dave threatens the wiki" is biased and you know it. -- Dave33333   The Epic King   has returned!  16:38, 5 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Funny. Isai said that he was also "screwing with us," yet still got met with disciplinary action. The wiki and network takes any threat, even hollow or "jokes," seriously. Considering your history with them also, we have no intent on letting this pass off as a joke. Consider this your first and final warning, and trust me, I'm playing the nice cop here. Also, explain why this shouldn't be deleted for inciting flame wars or attacking another user, which is against policy. -  Wonderweez  ( Talk · Contribs ) 16:41, 5 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Because this is a SERIOUS matter and ED is doing something absolutely horrible. I'm not gonna take bull from an Admin who sends me Pro-Nazi images in my memobox! This needs to stay because this is crucial. If you delete this then it means all is lost here. You also said this is gonna start a flame war? I don't see one! I see none at all. If you have gone as far as the say I'm starting a flame war then I question the entire admin staff. -- Dave33333   The Epic King   has returned!  16:44, 5 July 2017 (UTC)
 * I do not think fanning more flames is the solution, considering when you called the best option to get the problem fixed (HatPop) "spineless." I know you said you were attacked and all, and you claim Ed is a "nazi," but from my experience working with Ed, Ed is a wonderful user that is by no means a "nazi" like you claim him to be. Being of a minority race here in the US, he accepts people from all walks of life; if he didn't, do you think I would've stuck around? Also, the prospect of inciting flame wars means just that: inciting. To incite means to start or begin the process of; while there are no flame wars yet, there certainly is the possibility of doing so. -  Wonderweez  ( Talk · Contribs ) 16:52, 5 July 2017 (UTC)
 * How do you explain the following: 1) Defending Hitler by stating that he was bad except for what he did to Jewish people, praising him for his consolidation of power and for the Autobahn 2) Stating that he believes the United States shouldn't have joined the Allied side of World War 1 AND World War 2, saying that if they joined the German side the world would be a lot better and likely wouldn't even be a World War II 3) Stating that the Confederacy was right to secede and was absolutely not created on the idea of states' rights to own slaves - stating it is the Africans fault the slaves were there in first place since they were the ones to sell the slaves 4) Believing that emancipating black people and reuniting the USA was wrong 5) Constantly invoking fascist and national socialist elements into nearly everything he does on Fanon or on other games - be it Germania on his Minecraft server (Germania has a Nazi German flag as its official flag, by the way), or the Wulfen, or Ed Island, or EDFan12345, or Bloodstone Archipelago or 6) sending memos to Dave and other users on Nazism, how good it is and also some Nazi pictures / Nazi memes, as well as 7) constantly talking all the time about Nazi Germany and its history as well as Sikh soldiers in the Nazi German army, and the list goes on and on. Does anybody seriously believe this guy does not support Nazism and doesn't support discrimination and hatred towards our users, which he has, by the way, promoted against Dave33333, Brant, me and Quackerpingu publicly on the IRC and on the wiki up till now and still ongoing in the present day. We didn't stay silent to TurtleShroom's Christian Theocracy and neither should we stay silent to fascism. I'm not advocating for "revolution" or demotion votes, but I am calling for Ed to step down (with no RfA opened after that) and for change in how the wiki is ran. I want this done peacefully and I want the wiki to unite and work together to solve many problems it is currently facing. -- Penstubal  (Talk) (Edits) 15:06, 6 July 2017 (UTC)

i still don't know how i'm "barely a participant" but ok -- Chill57181     Talk    Contribs   16:32, 5 July 2017 (UTC)

t r i g g e r e d --Happyface (talk 16:34, 5 July 2017 (UTC)

Nobody is innocent in these kind of fights. I am not going to push for petty fights or for the demotion and ban for EDFan, especially not the latter which is simply too far. But what Ed said - this isn't something he should be explicitly 'demoted' for and especially not something to be banned for, but it is deplorable behavior and he constantly shows out this immature and unprofessional behavior as a site administrator - I'd personally, in his spot, 100% chance, step down from my position of power and hand CK the right to decide what then happens. Having National Socialists on our wiki is a serious issue as it is a very sensitive issue for many and makes many users mad and sad to see that on the wiki, we didn't tolerate TurtleShroom's Christian propaganda and his hate of gays and we shouldn't tolerate this either. TL;DR I am not calling for a ban or his demotion but in my opinion if I was him I would definitely step down. -- Penstubal (Talk) (Edits) 16:41, 5 July 2017 (UTC)

Ed posted on a safespace wiki created by him and his companions. Is this not enough evidence? Everything I have ever said was 100% true and this guy has been bullying and harassing me and other users for months - do you seriously not believe me? I agree, we sound really bad and sound really emotional and angry, but we are telling the truth and we are truly fed up with this constant harassment, intimidation and attacks we are getting from the guy. We want change on this wiki or, if not change, at least sympathy with our cause. Remember: just because he has a green name on the Recent Changes doesn't mean he is suddenly God and does everything right. The guy is not to be trusted for what he constantly does to everyone. He snubbed EVERY single user editing this wiki behind their backs, including Brant, me, Quackerpingu, Dave33333 and McDonalds384. He constantly attacks people for no reason and refuses to do his job right. Please listen to us and LISTEN to our concerns - we are truly concerned and this is going too far! -- Penstubal (Talk) (Edits) 15:23, 8 July 2017 (UTC)