Help:Completely Demote TurtleShroom

	You kind of ignited it. =P Meh. Anyway... Swiss and Sancho are taking this to the extreme. 	British troops apparently also withdrew, but I live in South Armagh and I still see them... 	I MUST FIND A WAY TO STOP IT. 	Yep 	How? [17:47]		simple 	Idk 	GPE 6 seems to be the main thing that could halt them. 	claim Swiss and Sancho are gaming the system. 	YES YES YES! 	??? 	They're taking advantage of freedom of speech to violate GPE6! Exactly! 	True 	There's no rule against gaming the system, though. 	Wait - what about the honest voting users? 	TO HECK WITH RULES. <ZONEsama>	there is in my policies <SnoopingGil|Away>	Gaming the system is BAD. <ZONEsama>	dunno about the COC <SnoopingGil|Away>	I think we can all agree on that. [17:48]	TS would call it using loopholes. =P <ZONEsama>	AgentJohnson: my comment was more directed towards swiss and sancho the honest voters im fine with <SnoopingGil|Away>	Honest voters? <AgentJohnson>	Oh ok	Me Zone and Trisk Apparently <SnoopingGil|Away>	Well, you could have a discussion over it instead. <CPMaster>	Of course <XTUX345>	ZONEsama, do you consider me like Sancho and Swiss? <CPMaster>	You can't say that TS doesn't have his faults <SnoopingGil|Away>	TS doesn't like discussions, though. I'll try to keep it simple. And get rid of the vote. [17:49]	That's forcing people between options. <XTUX345>	Hmmm.... <SnoopingGil|Away>	We could easily have a compromise here. <ZONEsama>	XTUX345: wat. <XTUX345>	True <SnoopingGil|Away>	XTUX, you're not THAT extreme. <AgentJohnson>	Consensus Not voting <XTUX345>	Whew <SnoopingGil|Away>	I think Dusty is a bad influence on you, though. <AgentJohnson>	A true consensus is a discussion Not a vote <Triskelle3>	Hey, we got a new user. <XTUX345>	DustyOS in real life is a nice person <AgentJohnson>	I agree <ZONEsama>	that demote TS topic has basically crapped all over consensus <XTUX345>	But online, he's sortof a troll <SnoopingGil|Away>	=P <CPMaster>	Can I say something in the comments but not vote? <SnoopingGil|Away>	Yes, yes it has. <AgentJohnson>	Same with me <SnoopingGil|Away>	You can. <ZONEsama>	by both parties involved <CPMaster>	k <AgentJohnson>	I'm in a lot of sport teams at school <Triskelle3>	She's from Bangor o_o <ZONEsama>	Sancho and Swiss are gaming the system [17:50]	and TS is too <SnoopingGil|Away>	This vote is REALLY dividing. <AgentJohnson>	And sort of midway in popularity <SnoopingGil|Away>	That's the real problem. <AgentJohnson>	Here I'm different <SnoopingGil|Away>	We can't have a vote on this, since the two parties are at opposite ends. <Triskelle3>	This vote is splitting the Wiki apart <ZONEsama>	except TS is gaming the system for no votes <SnoopingGil|Away>	We shouldn't be polarizing the wiki like this.

T.L.;D.R.: Vote destroyed because it's gaming the system, being antagonistic, and unfairly polarizing the wiki. When an issue is this controversial, we need to discuss it and search for a compromise, not split the wiki in two.  Yours Truly,   Explorer 767 ( <span title="*waves finger*">Smoking... is not allowed.  )   <span title="Behold if you dare!">v   •  [ <span title="Tweak if you dare!">e ]  21:52, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

And Consensus is a discussion; not a vote.-- Agent Johnson |  I'm Brit-ish and cause of that, I'm Liberal.  21:53, 17 March 2011 (UTC)