Talk:2017 Lagois City Western Union Summit

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(PASSED) Western Union Parliament (+4)
MOTION PASSED.

I believe we need a proper legislative body like the European Union Parliament in real life to represent all citizens of this union. The Parliament would be consisted of exactly 700 members and they would all be elected in direct elections every 4 years, elections which all member states and their citizens would participate in. The President of the Parliament would be elected by the MWPs (Memmers of the Western Parliament). All member states have a number of MWPs proportional to their population: Caseusopolis 2% (14 seats), Amataria 4% (28 seats), Acadia 6% (42 seats), Terra Federation 13% (91 seats), United Provinces 17% (119 seats), Margate 27% (189 seats), and Tropicalis 31% (217 seats).

All politial parties of the member states shall join the WU parliament groups (alliances) which together serve as one, these are all the groups:

1. [PASD] Progressive Alliance of Socialists and Democrats (left)

2. [WCR] Western Union Conservatives and Reformists (centre-right)

3. [WPP] Western Union People's Party Group (centre-right)

4. [AWG] Alliance of Western Greens (centre-left)

5. [UFDD] Union of Freedom and Direct Democracy (right)

6. [AWW] Alliance of Western Workers (far-left)

7. [UNF] Union of Nations and Freedom (far-right)

8. [AWLD] Alliance of Western Liberals and Democrats (centre)

9. Non-Inscrits

The first WU Parliament election should take place on 1 August 2017. I expect users that control the member states to together meet up on the ##WUTalk IRC channel where we will discuss how the seats will be arranged. The WU Parliament would have the powers of every normal national parliament only it would be concerning the WU itself and will not be able to override any legislation national parliaments pass or do anything to affect internal politics of WU nations without consent of the member states.

For (4)

 * 1) -- Penstubal (Talk) (Edits) 11:21, 4 July 2017 (UTC)
 * 2) --WP.png  Wikipenguino   (talk  | contribs  | articles ) memes Bananaphone.gif 11:26, 4 July 2017 (UTC)
 * 3) --Brant (Talk) (Contributions) 18:32, 7 July 2017 (UTC)
 * 4) -- [[Image:Ninj Xmas Sig.PNG|Special:Contributions/Ninjinian]] ¤   (  User page! ) (  Talk page. ) 12:42, 8 July 2017 (UTC)

Western Union Currency and the Circlezone (TALK)
We will need to create the Western Union Central Bank after we work out the currency. That part won't be too hard and we could just pass it right away. I want us to discuss how we will work out this currency right now. Please give your ideas and talk.

Discussion

 * The Circlezone will be the group of member states which have adopted the Circle currency. -- Penstubal (Talk) (Edits) 11:21, 4 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Does the Circlezone refers to any countries that will be using the Circle as a currency (including both countries that will be using be the Circle as the sole currency and countries that will be accepting the Circle as a legal tender in their borders), or does it refer to the former category of countiees alone? Are there any countries that will be replacing their currencies with the Circle? –CPRussia.pngBelarus_flag.jpg Slender  Talk to me   12:50, 8 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Like the real life Eurozone, those that use the Circle as an official currency, regardless of whether it is the sole one or whether it is a second one. The country that will replace its currency with the Circle will likely be the United Provinces first, in a year or two. -- Penstubal (Talk) (Edits) 11:00, 9 July 2017 (UTC)
 * How will the Central Bank be funded? Who will be contributing its initial foreign-exchange reserves? –CPRussia.pngBelarus_flag.jpg Slender  Talk to me   12:52, 8 July 2017 (UTC)
 * idk we need to work that out -- Penstubal (Talk) (Edits) 11:00, 9 July 2017 (UTC)

(PASSED) Western Union Central Bank (+5)
MOTION PASSED

This should be created once the Western Union Currency is worked out and this shouldn't be too big of a problem.

For (5)

 * 1) -- Penstubal (Talk) (Edits) 11:21, 4 July 2017 (UTC)
 * 2) --WP.png  Wikipenguino   (talk  | contribs  | articles ) memes Bananaphone.gif 13:26, 7 July 2017 (UTC)
 * 3) --Brant (Talk) (Contributions) 18:32, 7 July 2017 (UTC)
 * 4) –CPRussia.pngBelarus_flag.jpg Slender  Talk to me   12:08, 8 July 2017 (UTC)
 * 5) -- [[Image:Ninj Xmas Sig.PNG|Special:Contributions/Ninjinian]] ¤   (  User page! ) (  Talk page. ) 12:42, 8 July 2017 (UTC)

(PASSED) Western Union Commission (+3)
MOTION PASSED.

The Western Union Commission (WC) would be an institution that would be responsible for proposing legislation, implementing decisions, upholding WU treaties and managing business in the Western Union. The Commission President would be proposed by the Council and elected by the Parliament.

For (4)

 * 1) -- Penstubal (Talk) (Edits) 18:38, 4 July 2017 (UTC)
 * 2) --Brant (Talk) (Contributions) 18:32, 7 July 2017 (UTC)
 * 3) –CPRussia.pngBelarus_flag.jpg Slender  Talk to me   12:47, 8 July 2017 (UTC)
 * 4) --WP.png  Wikipenguino   (talk  | contribs  | articles ) memes Bananaphone.gif 12:49, 8 July 2017 (UTC)

Neutral (1)

 * 1) -- [[Image:Ninj Xmas Sig.PNG|Special:Contributions/Ninjinian]] ¤   (  User page! ) (  Talk page. ) 12:42, 8 July 2017 (UTC)

(PASSED) Leaving the Western Union (+4)
MOTION PASSED.

We need to make a specific and precise procedure for if a member state decides to exit the Western Union. The Western Union has become so entangled and complex that leaving it wouldn't be so simple. We would have to negotiate borders, currency, economy, military, trade, customs and other things. I think there needs to be an article that should be activated similar to how it is in real life EU and it would take 3 months for a country to leave the Western Union.

For (4)

 * 1) -- Penstubal (Talk) (Edits) 11:36, 4 July 2017 (UTC)
 * 2) --WP.png  Wikipenguino   (talk  | contribs  | articles ) memes Bananaphone.gif 13:26, 7 July 2017 (UTC)
 * 3) --Brant (Talk) (Contributions) 18:32, 7 July 2017 (UTC)
 * 4) -- [[Image:Ninj Xmas Sig.PNG|Special:Contributions/Ninjinian]] ¤   (  User page! ) (  Talk page. ) 12:42, 8 July 2017 (UTC)

(FAILED) Western Union Citizenship (+0)
MOTION FAILED.

All citizens of countries in the Western Union shall also be given citizenship of the Western Union. They will all get Western Union passports which will be blue in color and state the name of the country as well as have a caption that says WESTERN UNION. Citizens will be able to renounce citizenship at any given time.

For (1)

 * 1) -- Penstubal (Talk) (Edits) 11:36, 4 July 2017 (UTC)

Against (1)

 * 1) -- [[Image:Ninj Xmas Sig.PNG|Special:Contributions/Ninjinian]] ¤   (  User page! ) (  Talk page. ) 12:42, 8 July 2017 (UTC)

Neutral (2)

 * 1) --WP.png <font face="Silom"> Wikipenguino   (<span title="Talk to meh!!!">talk  | <span title="I have  edits!">contribs  | <span title="Houston, we have a problem">articles ) memes Bananaphone.gif 12:21, 4 July 2017 (UTC)
 * 2) --Brant (Talk) (Contributions) 18:32, 7 July 2017 (UTC)

Ordinary Discussion

 * I want to make the Western Union more than just a military and an economic alliance but also an irreversible amazing project of cooperation between the users and the member states. I want to make the Western Union like the IRL European Union, which I deeply admire (I have contempt for their policies on immigration and intervening in member states' affairs but I love the European project, to unite the European peoples), and to make the Western Union so deeply entangled, so influential and powerful and to bring unity among the member states. Do you guys support this idea of a united, free of foreign influence Western Union? -- Penstubal (Talk) (Edits) 11:40, 4 July 2017 (UTC)